It's stories on stories this week as David interviews Jordan Stillman and Brandon M. Crose of The Ordinary Epic. Hear them discuss:

• How they met
• Their histories with RPGs, and inspirations for the OE characters
• Brandon's work on Second Shift, and changes in approach since then
• Jordan's role as script editor and Season 2 writer
• How people reveal themselves in RPGs
• RPGs themselves as an auditory medium
• Questioning good and evil, race and other game world assumptions

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