Andy calls up Ashish Jha, Dean of Brown University's School of Public Health, to discuss what to expect during the next three stages of the pandemic. Ashish also describes going through what he calls "among the most surreal experiences of my life" – testifying in front of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee about hydroxychloroquine. Plus, Ashish’s projections for 2021 including which holiday we will be able to celebrate with friends and family — and an invitation too!

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Read Ashish’s op-ed in The New York Times about the recent Senate hearing on hydroxychloroquine: covid.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-covid.html 
• Listen to Ashish’s podcast, COVID: What comes next - With Dr. Ashish Jha: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/covid-what-comes-next-with-dr-ashish-jha/id1537623373 
• Keep up with all of Ashish’s work with the Brown School of Public Health: https://www.brown.edu/academics/public-health/about/people/dean/ashish-jha 
• Pre-order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response, here: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

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