On this episode Poetz is back! He and Jarom talk about the ups and downs the Hawks have faced after winning 4 in a row and then dropping 3 straight. They continue to just talk about the Lehner/Crowford duo but ask if Colliton should consider tossing Crow in for all shootouts and Jarom asks how hard is it for goalies to be switching off each game and if there might be time to let one goalie run with the crease a little more. The Boys are then joined by Founder of the Veterans Hockey League and Goalie for the Level Zero Heroes Marine Veteran Alex Martinez who talks a little bit about what the VHL is, what they are trying to accomplish, and how you can get involved. For more info on the VHL: vetshockeyleague.com instagram.com/veteranshockey/ They are then joined by Marine Veteran William Lipke who plays for the Chicago Blackhawks Warriors and Level Zero Heroes. William talks about hockey being therapeutic and giving him a chance to escape and his personal experiences playing in the VHL For more info on the Chicago Blackhawks Warriors: chicagoblackhawkswarriors.com facebook.com/chicagoblackhawkswarriors/ Follow the Boys on all Social Media @WCBPodcast. There you can slide in to the DMs and leave some questions for future Riding Pine Segments. Use our WCBPodcast Hotline call and leave Voicemails with questions, would you rather, hypotheticals, and players for a game of Sign, Trade, Buy Out. Call or text us at 708-942-4829