Kara and Scott talk about Internet slow downs and how companies are coping as the country starts living their work and personal lives online. They discuss reports that the government is using mobile advertiser geo-location data on your phone to track social distancing and the spread of COVID-19. Friend of Pivot, renowned therapist and podcast host Esther Perel joins Kara and Scott to talk about dealing with grief in a moment of instability, how to be a better partner and colleague during the lockdowns. (Check out her new mini-series off her hit podcast Where Should We Begin?: Couples Under Lockdown, where she offers therapy to couples confined together in quarantine). Winners include Bill Gates, Yamiche Alcindor's showdowns with POTUS, and Italy starting to get ahead of COVID-19. PLUS: Will Fox News finally face a reckoning after the COVID-19 crisis? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices