Jen: "The Lord continued to cultivate my ministry through opportunities to serve the local church, and also through other women that got put in my life to pour into me as I was growing. It's like, each one teach one, you know? What the Lord does in you is not just for you to become spiritually fat." Portia: "I recently heard someone talk about how we have become such consumers when it comes to spiritual things, and we don't realize we're not just consumers for the sake of getting it and stacking it and sitting on it; or, as you just said, becoming spiritually fat. We consume to pour out." On today's episode, Portia experiences a show without interruptions or songs about presidents and Jasmine attends to some business. But joining Portia is Jennifer Lucy Tyler, founder of Soul Circles. Listen in as the two talk about the struggles, joys, challenges and rewards of women's ministry, effective ways to share the Gospel in today's culture, and more.