Joy Reid leads this episode of The ReidOut with breaking news: The New York Times is reporting that Mark Meadows, former Trump chief of staff, has testified before the federal grand jury hearing evidence in special counsel Jack Smith's investigations. Conservative lawyer and Washington Post columnist George Conway joins us with his expert analysis. Plus, Joy compares the soaring rhetoric of America's presidents versus that of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who was just called a "small, pathetic man" by a fellow governor. We expose Florida's immigration crackdown. Also in this episode, we report on the growing calls for justice following the killing of AJ Owens, a Florida mother of four who was shot to death as she defended her children last Friday night. Her neighbor who witnessed part of the aftermath of this tragic event joins Joy to share her account. All this and more in this edition of The ReidOut on MSNBC.