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- Nov 15, 2020
- Episode Duration |
- 00:55:08
Soonish's six-month detour into electoral politics finishes where it started, with a conversation with our favorite futurist, Jamais Cascio. We talked late on November 6—when it was already clear that Joseph R. Biden would win the presidential race, but before the networks had officially called it—and we explored what Biden's unexpectedly narrow win will mean for progress against the pandemic; for the fortunes of the progressive left; and for the future of democracy in the United States.
Turning Donald Trump out of office was an enormous and crucial accomplishment, and Biden voters should take a moment to celebrate. But Cascio argues that if Republicans retain control of the Senate (a matter that now hinges on a pair of ferociously contested runoff elections in Georgia), Biden's win will amount to, at most, an "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging" moment. It will give Biden and Harris the opportunity to tackle the biggest crises facing the country—the newly resurgent coronavirus pandemic and the economic havoc it's wrought. But it won't leave much room to pursue the structural reforms needed to tame white grievance, end minoritarian rule, and get government working again.
But there's always 2022. In other words, this election wasn't the beginning of the end of the long fight to save democracy and protect the rights of all citizens in this country. But it might be the end of the beginning.
Chapter Guide
00:08 Soonish theme
00:22 We Did It!
01:32 Reality Sinks In
04:29 Re-introducing Jamais Cascio
05:28 Check-in
06:31 Setting the Scene
08:48 The Troubling News
10:19 The Depths of our Polarization
13:01 Perpetuating Dysfunction
17:01 Reviewing Wade’s Post-Election Scenarios
19:49 The Pandemic and Conspiracy Theories
24:57 Violence Against Democracy
27:38 The Weakness of Norms
30:51 Mid-roll Endorsement: Big Brains
31:49 What Next for the Progressive Left?
36:13 Polls Are Left-Wing Astrology
37:57 Cliodynamics
40:30 Back to BANI
45:34 Fighting Back Against Incomprehensibility
48:49 Final Thoughts: The Real Work Is Still Ahead
52:11 End Credits and Acknowledgements
53:00 “Jaws: Amity Island Welcomes You” from Iconography
Find the full show notes and a transcript for this episode at soonishpodcast.org.
The Soonish opening theme is by Graham Gordon Ramsay. All additional music by Titlecard Music and Sound.
If you enjoy Soonish, please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. Every additional rating makes it easier for other listeners to find the show.
Listener support is the rocket fuel that keeps our little ship going! You can pitch in with a per-episode donation at patreon.com/soonish.
Follow us on Twitter and get the latest updates about the show in our email newsletter, Signals from Soonish.
Soonish's six-month detour into electoral politics finishes where it started, with a conversation with our favorite futurist, Jamais Cascio. We talked late on November 6—when it was already clear that Joseph R. Biden would win the presidential race, but before the networks had officially called it—and we explored what Biden's unexpectedly narrow win will mean for progress against the pandemic; for the fortunes of the progressive left; and for the future of democracy in the United States.
Turning Donald Trump out of office was an enormous and crucial accomplishment, and Biden voters should take a moment to celebrate. But Cascio argues that if Republicans retain control of the Senate (a matter that now hinges on a pair of ferociously contested runoff elections in Georgia), Biden's win will amount to, at most, an "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging" moment. It will give Biden and Harris the opportunity to tackle the biggest crises facing the country—the newly resurgent coronavirus pandemic and the economic havoc it's wrought. But it won't leave much room to pursue the structural reforms needed to tame white grievance, end minoritarian rule, and get government working again.
But there's always 2022. In other words, this election wasn't the beginning of the end of the long fight to save democracy and protect the rights of all citizens in this country. But it might be the end of the beginning.
Chapter Guide
00:08 Soonish theme
00:22 We Did It!
01:32 Reality Sinks In
04:29 Re-introducing Jamais Cascio
05:28 Check-in
06:31 Setting the Scene
08:48 The Troubling News
10:19 The Depths of our Polarization
13:01 Perpetuating Dysfunction
17:01 Reviewing Wade’s Post-Election Scenarios
19:49 The Pandemic and Conspiracy Theories
24:57 Violence Against Democracy
27:38 The Weakness of Norms
30:51 Mid-roll Endorsement: Big Brains
31:49 What Next for the Progressive Left?
36:13 Polls Are Left-Wing Astrology
37:57 Cliodynamics
40:30 Back to BANI
45:34 Fighting Back Against Incomprehensibility
48:49 Final Thoughts: The Real Work Is Still Ahead
52:11 End Credits and Acknowledgements
53:00 “Jaws: Amity Island Welcomes You” from Iconography
Find the full show notes and a transcript for this episode at soonishpodcast.org.
The Soonish opening theme is by Graham Gordon Ramsay. All additional music by Titlecard Music and Sound.
If you enjoy Soonish, please rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. Every additional rating makes it easier for other listeners to find the show.
Listener support is the rocket fuel that keeps our little ship going! You can pitch in with a per-episode donation at patreon.com/soonish.
Follow us on Twitter and get the latest updates about the show in our email newsletter, Signals from Soonish.
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