We discuss the twelfth day of Richard Allen's trial. We heard about Allen's calls with his wife Kathy and his mother Janis. The state rested, and the defense began its case with testimony from Cheyenne Mill and Theresa Liebert.

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The thing about Jayson is that he’s one of the most compassionate and interesting people we know, which definitely helps him out on the interviewing front. Listening to the Silver Linings Handbook feels like sitting around a campfire with interesting storytellers. You’ll get into topics like he criminal justice system, spirituality, and mental health — the big through line is it’s all thoughtful and human-centric. 

We’ve so enjoyed getting to go on the Silver Linings Handbook to talk about true crime in the past. Jayson always makes us believe in the bright side of true crime, and I always end up endlessly quoting him afterwards. These talks are just so engaging  — as well as being completely unscripted and authentic! 

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