More than 7,500 Australians have died from COVID-19 in 2022, and some think that number could reach 15,000 by the end of the year. So what, if anything, is being done to slow the death toll? Today we speak to a woman still struggling to comprehend the loss of a loved one and an epidemiologist about how Australia went from a world leader in controlling the disease to the bottom of the pack. Featured: Paige Carter, family member Professor Michael Toole, Associate Principal Research Fellow, Burnet Institute