Could the academic year be the latest victim of the Covid cancellation? Headteacher and education reformer, Katharine Birbalsingh, joins Christopher Hope to make her case for keeping children back a year. She tells us shy screens are no replacement for teachers, and why she does have some sympathy for a certain Education Secretary... 

Plus former Newsnight presenter, Gavin Esler on the likelihood of Scottish independence, featuring a quick burst of Scottish mythology for anyone not paying attention at the back.

And the Telegraph's outgoing US Editor Ben Riley-Smith on what it was really like reporting on the Trump political circus, featuring a cameo from Chris' talking Trump pen.

How Britain Ends: English Nationalism and the Rebirth of Four Nations, by Gavin Esler: https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Britain-Ends-English-Nationalism/dp/1800241054/ |

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