Contributor(s): Professor Susan Shirk, Chris Gilson, Mohid Rehman Malik | In January 2023, the Phelan US Centre’s Chris Gilson and Mohid Malik spoke to Professor Susan Shirk, Research Professor and Chair of the 21st Century China Center at UC San Diego about her new book, Overreach: How China Derailed its Peaceful Rise. They also discussed how China’s leadership in recent decades has influenced the country’s relationship with the United States, and the steps that both could take to improve that relationship. This Extra Inning was produced by Chris Gilson, Mohid Malik, and Anderson Tan.