A surprise ruling from the Alabama Supreme Court has halted fertility treatments across the state and sent a shock wave through the world of reproductive health.

Azeen Ghorayshi, who covers sex, gender, and science for The Times, explains what the court case means for reproductive health and a patient in Alabama explains what it is like navigating the fallout.

Guests: Azeen Ghorayshi, who covers sex, gender and science for The New York Times; and Meghan S. Cole, who is in the final stages of IVF treatment in Alabama.

Background reading: 

• Alabama ruled frozen embryos are children, alabama-abortion.html?smid=pc-thedaily">raising questions about fertility care.
• Fertility clinics are routinely sued by patients for errors that destroy embryos, as happened in Alabama.clinics-embryos-alabama.html"> An effort to define them legally as “unborn children” clinics-embryos-alabama.html?smid=pc-thedaily">has raised the stakes.

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