Hello from the TTSG drop-out commune!

This week, a longer-than-we-intended show about the TikTok saga, Chinese/US hegemony, and nationalist traps. We also respond to a few of your brilliant emails and DMs.

0:00 – Jay explains his obsession with the history of Jonestown, and we toss around a few theories of left (and right) millenarianisms.

5:30 – After all Trump’s blather about security, TikTok, USA looks to be headed toward Oracle and Wal-Mart, with no promises of Internet liberty. Plus: will $5 billion from the deal somehow fund “The 1776 Project” aka Patriot Education aka Uncritical Race Theory?

14:10 – Enter the American splinternet? Or is that what we’ve been surfing all along? We ask why the past couple generations of US leftists seem so local in their thinking. Is a new kind of internationalist organizing possible?

34:20 – Our humble (and not-so-humble) takes on listener comments and questions:

1) How to support Chinese international students in this xenophobic age? And what to make of parents on conservative WeChat? Bonus: the surprising demographics AAVS-2020-sep15.pdf">of GOP Asian America. (Thanks, Elaine!)

2) What to make of the cops’ courting of Asian American communities? (Terima kasi, Megan!)

3) What does it mean to “organize,” and do upper-class people have any right to get involved in labor struggles? (감사합니다, Ollie!)

4) Is ethnic studies a force for good in politics, or does it just produce diversity aesthetics? (Salamat, Jael!)

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