Building products is hard. And devs can often feel hamstrung by competing priorities. The battle between revenue and quality is ever-present and ongoing. But is it possible to achieve both?  In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some of their frustrations with the tech companies and tech stacks in the modern era, supporting open source projects, and some great TV shows they have been enjoying. Key Takeaways [01:27] - A whiskey review - Barrell Dovetail Whiskey. [08:00] - Why tech companies are reluctant to upgrade dependencies. [18:08] - The importance of supporting open source projects. [30:45] - Why React dominates the landscape. [43:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss TV shows. [49:36] - Chuck’s weekend plans with family. [54:29] - Chuck’s Korean fried chicken experience. Quotes [10:48] - “I feel like we've done all of this stuff to be like, let's get everyone Scrum certified, and let's do this whole process. And people really bought into that, and it does not help them.” ~ @rwwagner90 [12:59] - “You read the books. You see the blogs. You get experts to come in and train your teams, and you're still kind of struggling to get it right. But then we keep getting told there's a right way. Who is doing it right?” ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [25:27] - “I think in a perfect world, what I would love to see happen is companies kind of take frameworks under their wing and be like, look, we realize how much work you're doing. We realize there are not that many people doing it. Here are these two people we just hired. Teach them the thing that no one knows so we can increase the buzz factor here and at the same time, instead of just telling you to teach them, here's $500,000. Do whatever you think makes the framework better.” ~ @rwwagner90 Links Barrell Dovetail Whiskey MGP Dr Pepper Cherry Coca Cola George Dickel Tenessee Whiskey Jack Daniels Distillery Green Brier Distillery Ember Next.js GitHub NPM Melaine Sumner Sindre Sorhus Chris Manson Microsoft Jest Facebook Vitest Faker  Java Script Hacker News Reddit Sqwok jQuery LESS Sass Coffee Script TypeScrpit Lodash Shop Talk Electro-Voice PHP Angular CLI Ember CLI Kent C Dodds Remix Solid Astro Redwood Old Man Hulu Jeff Bridges Sally Fields Arnold Schwarzenegger The Big Lebowski  Severance Adam Scott Apple TV Apple Big Little Lies Reese Witherspoon Loot Maya Rudolph Jeff Bezos Sea World Lego Land McDonald’s Bonchon In-N-Out Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Building products is hard. And devs can often feel hamstrung by competing priorities. The battle between revenue and quality is ever-present and ongoing. But is it possible to achieve both?  In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some of their frustrations with the tech companies and tech stacks in the modern era, supporting open source projects, and some great TV shows they have been enjoying. Key Takeaways [01:27] - A whiskey review - Barrell Dovetail Whiskey. [08:00] - Why tech companies are reluctant to upgrade dependencies. [18:08] - The importance of supporting open source projects. [30:45] - Why React dominates the landscape. [43:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss TV shows. [49:36] - Chuck’s weekend plans with family. [54:29] - Chuck’s Korean fried chicken experience. Quotes [10:48] - “I feel like we've done all of this stuff to be like, let's get everyone Scrum certified, and let's do this whole process. And people really bought into that, and it does not help them.” ~ @rwwagner90 [12:59] - “You read the books. You see the blogs. You get experts to come in and train your teams, and you're still kind of struggling to get it right. But then we keep getting told there's a right way. Who is doing it right?” ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [25:27] - “I think in a perfect world, what I would love to see happen is companies kind of take frameworks under their wing and be like, look, we realize how much work you're doing. We realize there are not that many people doing it. Here are these two people we just hired. Teach them the thing that no one knows so we can increase the buzz factor here and at the same time, instead of just telling you to teach them, here's $500,000. Do whatever you think makes the framework better.” ~ @rwwagner90 Links Barrell Dovetail Whiskey MGP Dr Pepper Cherry Coca Cola George Dickel Tenessee Whiskey Jack Daniels Distillery Green Brier Distillery Ember Next.js GitHub NPM Melaine Sumner Sindre Sorhus Chris Manson Microsoft Jest Facebook Vitest Faker  Java Script Hacker News Reddit Sqwok jQuery LESS Sass Coffee Script TypeScrpit Lodash Shop Talk Electro-Voice PHP Angular CLI Ember CLI Kent C Dodds Remix Solid Astro Redwood Old Man Hulu Jeff Bridges Sally Fields Arnold Schwarzenegger The Big Lebowski  Severance Adam Scott Apple TV Apple Big Little Lies Reese Witherspoon Loot Maya Rudolph Jeff Bezos Sea World Lego Land McDonald’s Bonchon In-N-Out Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.