For everyone who wanted more T-Bird in the Survivor off-season, your wish has been granted as we once again start up the series "Talking with T-Bird." Each episode, Rob Cesternino and Survivor: Africa's Teresa "T-Bird" Cooper will catch up with a former Survivor player and talk about anything and take listener questions. In this episode of "Talking with T-Bird", Rob and T-Bird's guest is Kathy Vavrick O'Brien. Kathy lasted 38 days and came in third place on Survivor: Marquesas and lasted 28 days on Survivor: All-Stars, coming in eighth place.