The political divide in America is getting wider, and bridging it is becoming more fraught. That goes for national politics but also for debates closer to home, like policy around homelessness and the criminal justice system here in Seattle.

Today we're sharing an excerpt from a new KUOW show, "Subtext: What Goes Unsaid." Host Bill Radke spoke with Seattle author Monica Guzman about her book I Never Thought of It That Way: How To Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations In Dangerously Divided Times.

Hear more Subtext by subscribing to KUOW Shorts in your favorite podcast app: https://www.kuow.org/podcasts/shorts