Today’s page of Talmud, Yevamot 78, warns us against judging our historical heroes too harshly. Douglas Murray, author of the bestselling The War on the West, joins us to explain our recent appetite for tearing down statues of our heroes, and why seeing the past through the very narrow lens of current ideological convictions is a very bad idea. Does Thomas Jefferson still represent the values of the United States of America? Listen and find out. Like the show? Send us a note at takeone@tabletmag.com. Follow us on Twitter at @takeonedafyomi and join the conversation in the Take One Facebook group. Take One is a Tablet Studios production. The show is hosted by Liel Leibovitz, and is produced and edited by Darone Ruskay and Quinn Waller. Our team also includes Stephanie Butnick, Josh Kross, Mark Oppenheimer, Sara Fredman Aeder, Robert Scaramuccia, and Tanya Singer.  Check out all of Tablet’s podcasts at tabletmag.com/podcasts.