Today’s Daf Yomi page, Shekalim 18, is all about the menorah that burned bright in the ancient Temple. Why do we continue to contemplate it even now, millennia after it was last extinguished? Podcaster Eric Silver joins us to talk about the fantasy game Dungeons and Dragons, and how, like studying the Talmud, it makes you better by forcing you to study the intricate details of alternate realities. Why does arguing, in games and in real life alike, help you see things more clearly? Listen and find out. Like the show? Send us a note at takeone@tabletmag.com. Follow us on Twitter at @takeonedafyomi and join the conversation in the Take One Facebook group. Take One is hosted by Liel Leibovitz and produced by Josh Kross, Sara Fredman Aeder, and Robert Scaramuccia. Check out all of Tablet’s podcasts at tabletmag.com/podcasts.