Humanitarian crises in places like Afghanistan, Yemen or Ethiopia are not only a reflection of internal turmoil – but mirror a much grander development: system failure. In today’s episode, Mark Leonard is joined by David Miliband, president and chief executive officer of the International Rescue Committee and a former UK Foreign Secretary. Together, they discuss his model describing the four levels of system failure: what are the drivers behind it and what must be done in order to confront and counter the current developments? A solution to the system failure, they argue, should be conceptualised as a cross-sectorial endeavour beyond the humanitarian subdivision. This podcast was recorded on 1 February 2022. Further reading: David A. Morse Lecture at the Council on Foreign Relations by President and CEO of the International Rescue Committee David Miliband: https://buff.ly/34yc9ap Bookshelf: Cricketing Lives: A Characterful History from Pitch to Page by Richard H. Thomas Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism by Mariana Mazzucato Empireland: How Imperialism Has Shaped Modern Britain by Sathnam Sanghera