(Originally Released: December 10, 2016)

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Today is part two of the conversation with Shaun Chamberlin (Part 1 ), editor of Lean Logic and Surviving the Future, on the work of David Fleming. This time we focus on Shaun including his background, current activities, and what it means to bear David’s Legacy.

Along the way, the conversation touches on a variety of subjects related to our work in the modern world, including the role of education, the apolitical need for action on the future, and what we can do to live inexpensively and with directed intent. This is candid, on both of our parts, as we share more of our own private stories as much as the public.

Find our more about Shaun and his work at DarkOptimism.org.

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Resources Lean Logic   (Chelsea Green Publishing) Surviving the Future   (Chelsea Green Publishing) Get both books for $60 .  (Chelsea Green Publishing)

Dark Optimism (Shaun’s Site) Lean Logic: The Work of David Fleming (Permaculture Podcast Interview)

Schumacher College The Moneyless Manifesto  – Mark Boyle mountain.net/">The Dark Mountain Project The Transition Timeline The Happy Pig , Ireland. (Permaculture Magazine UK) The Power of Time Off  (TED Talk)

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