When Australia’s most high-profile Indigenous journalist was forced to step away from his role because of racist abuse – it made headlines around the world.  But here in Australia, most of the media and our political leaders have struggled to comprehend the meaning of the moment – and appear to be trapped in a cycle of well-wishes, apologies and outright denial instead of taking action. Today, Yorta Yorta writer and contributor to The Saturday Paper Daniel James, on whether Australia is mature enough to have a national conversation about racism and justice for Indigenous people. Socials: Stay in touch with us on Twitter and Instagram Guest: Contributor to The Saturday Paper, Daniel James