One of the most consequential political shifts of 2022 was the election of several ‘teal’ independent candidates to the federal parliament. The teals were mostly professional women who ran in traditionally Liberal-held seats, and campaigned on climate, integrity, and equality. Their election en masse was a shock to the Liberal party, and could herald a more permanent shift away from the major parties. Apart from their policy priorities, the other thing the teal candidates had in common was funding from Climate 200. The lobby group is led by Simon Holmes á Court, the son of Australia’s first billionaire. In this interview from May, Holmes á Court gave us staggering insights into how the campaign for independent candidates was run. **Guest**: Founder of Climate 200, Simon Holmes à Court.