Todd and Rob discuss the 200-person layoff that has wholly gutted the Spotify podcast division and what that and other discharges mean for podcasting in general. Will there be a bunch of new podcasting companies that will startup? Also, who are the next leaders in the podcasting space who will cheerleaders for continued open podcasting established in 2004? There are very few that have true longevity in the space and while we see many emerging in roles, they are not always complete advocates of an open ecosphere. Those that control what we term closed podcasting have no desire for the space to remain open as it has been since its inception. With iOS 17, Apple will finally drink its Kool-aid and support episode art. The episode-level art support is already supported by some third-party apps, even though Apple introduced the feature many many years ago. Please check out all the new Podcast Apps at PodcastApps.com that support Podcast 2.0 initiatives. You can also boost the show V4V and have your boost read live, the easiest way to support the podcast. Please take 60 seconds and fill out the listener survey from this link.  Donate to the show and Support this podcast. Get a Sticker: Send us your show sticker, and we will send you a New Media Show Sticker. Get on our sticker board for the show. New Media Productions 365 N Willowbrook Rd Suite: C Coldwater, Mi, 49036