As the Russian war in Ukraine approaches the two year mark, for Ukraine’s 40 plus million citizens there appears to be very little to be hopeful about. US and EU weapons funding has stalled while civilian casualties have topped 10,000, and counting. What’s the secret coping strategy Ukrainians use to deal with all this? According to one journalist, it’s humor. Ukrainian journalist and fellow at London-based think tank Chatham House, Olga Tokariuk joins The Excerpt to discuss the way humor has become a force for unity and resilience among Ukrainians.

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