We have two trailblazers in the studio to talk about all things music and life, Rowlene and Moozlie are here to let us know what the word is.

You probably know Rowlene from her collaborations with Nasty C, but she is steadily making sure that's not all that you know here for. We were all amazed when we found out that she mixes and masters her own music, she also lets us know what the working dynamic is like at Tall racks Records and what it's like having a young boss like Nasty C.

Enter Moozlie, we don't think our intro to her will do any justice. From TV presenter to charting rapper. Moozlie has been on the up in Hip Hop and she lets us in on her secret to being a multi-faceted personality in the industry. We also got to get her side of the story of the Cash Time label situation and how she handled the backlash from her responsible driving campaign, which had the whole country shook.

There's all of that from these two ladies and a lot more in between, enjoy the conversation. Get involved with the conversation using the hashtag #TheSoberingPodcast and check the ladies doing their thing at #CastleLiteUnlocks on June 17th and 18, respectively.

Guests @Nomoozlie @Rowlene_SA

Hosts Mokgethwa - @Mokgethwa__ Kitso Moremi - @FratpackMusic Kabelo Moremi - @Fratpacker

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