Doctors and scientists have been saying COVID will eventually become endemic......meaning the virus is still there, still circulating but it's manageable---nowhere near as rampant and deadly as it is now. But one biosecurity expert in Australia say COVID will never get to that point. It'll remain an epidemic. She says it's because there are large rapid rises in case numbers. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices