Monica was raised as an independent woman by her very independent Mexican mother. But she’s realizing both of them easily fall back on outmoded gender roles. And, a family therapist returns to the show to give all of us tools to self correct.

Our expert this week is Claudia Cuevas, a licensed marriage and family therapist in Mission Viejo, CA. She focuses on Latinas, men and the families who love them.You can visit her website here. If you loved this episode, be sure to check out Papí and I Don't Talk, We Argue, and When Helping Leaves You Feeling Bad After.

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