Sometimes I wonder what you folks think about interviews. What you think about the guests, what you think about the questions, what you internalize and take with you as you put your headphones away and think about what you’ve just heard.

This interview with Sasha Wheeler is one of the most nuanced interviews I’ve ever aired. Sasha is a trans woman based in New Orleans—she built her first roaster when she was 15 from an aluminum can. As I re-listened to this episode, which I have to admit I don’t do very often because I hate the sound of my own voice, I found myself rewinding backwards, listening to answers that Sasha gave over and over, taking in the larger context of what her answers meant.

This episode is slower than most, but I hope the slowness gives you space to really deeply listen to what Sasha has to say. As she tells her story—one of customer service, one of self-discovery, one of pursuing passion—really listen and consider what her answers mean. Hopefully you’ll leave this episode with a lot of answers, but also with some more questions—you can find Sasha on Instagram at @whevyrn or as part of the very first Brewers Cup Glitter Cat cohort.