In this fast-paced world, it’s easy to get caught up in the everyday - to have your mind dominated by short-term goals. But how often do you stop and consider the future? Whether it’s for our own personal development, or for the sake of the planet, short-term thinking can severely hold us back.

That’s why Ella Saltmarshe co-founded the Long Time Project, whose goal is to find new ways to help us care about the long-term future. She also presents a podcast called The Long Time Academy, which aims to change the way we choose to engage with time.

In this episode we learn about art and culture’s superpower of inciting change, we find out why you don’t need to be a specialist to be a success, and what it means to be a better ancestor to the generations that will inherit the Earth.

Find out more about Ella here.

Your host is inkjockey founder Mark Heywood.

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