Let's get this out of the way at the start - if you don't want to hear a few pretty bad taste jokes as MJ's expense then maybe skip this one. We don't need the hassle. But if you do want to hear two people who genuinely liked the previous Michael Jackson albums discuss his first release of the 90s then step this way! Lots of chat about the new direction that producer Teddy Riley has taken things - for better or for worse? Also some chat about U2's 'Achtung Baby', a comparison of MJ to Megadeth and whether or not the special effects in the 'Black Or White' video still look any good these days.

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