7 years ago, Australian businesswoman and fashion model Elle Macpherson, was diagnosed with cancer. Now in clinical remission, Macpherson is sharing her "integrative medicine approach", which involves swapping chemotherapy in favour of what she calls "an intuitive, heart-led, holistic approach-therapy". 

Dr. Norman Swan says while Elle Macpherson is just telling her own story, she has probably been "lucky" with the way her cancer - in and of itself - has developed. He says death rates from breast cancer have dropped by 40% because of research and targetted medical treatment.

Guest: Dr Norman Swan, host of What's That Rash? podcast and RN's The Health Report