Sir Iain Duncan Smith joins Christopher Hope to talk about the Conservative's latest leader (third time lucky?) and the country's new Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak. The former party leader warns that a combination of "higher taxes and big, big sweeping cuts" could plunge the UK "into deep recession" and urges Liz Truss to not intervene too much from the backbenches.

Plus Chopper is joined by the Telegraph's Associate Editor Gordon Rayner to delve into the podcast vault and listen back to our interview with Rishi Sunak back in August, and see what it can tell us about what Sunak has in store for the country and his premiership.

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