Today we have a special episode of The Suburban Women Problem! Retired Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman—AKA the man who testified against Trump in the first impeachment hearing, AKA our lovely host Rachel Vindman’s husband—joins the pod to chat about his brand-new book and why doing the right thing matters more than ever.

Rachel, along with fellow co-hosts Amanda Weinstein and Jasmine Clark, chat with Alex about Trump’s fateful phone call with the President of Ukraine, why Alex decided to report that call, the trolls and criticisms they’ve had to deal with as a result, and how Alex has never regretted doing the right thing.

After that, Rachel and her husband ask each other questions one-on-one about how it felt to go through that experience together. They chat about why he decided to write a book, how Alex handles seeing her attacked by online trolls (he says he wishes he could challenge them to a duel!), how Rachel has taken care of her mental health through all of this, and more. They even find time to ask each other fun questions like who they’d cast to play each other in a movie version of their lives, their favorite binge-watch, and what title Rachel would choose if she wrote her own autobiography.

Then Amanda, Jasmine and Rachel raise a glass to summer, listening to scientists, and the brave Capitol Police officers who testified at the January 6th commission hearings in this week’s “Toast to Joy.”

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