Before Heather Cocks was a Fug Girl, she was sifting through footage to craft storylines for the contestants on America’s Next Top Model. She’s joined by Grant Rickard, a reality TV veteran who’s worked his way up the producing ladder on everything from Top Chef to Keeping Up With The Kardashians. Listen as they share all their behind-the-craziness stories, and find out what it takes to turn a giant stack of tapes (or digital files, these days) into a compelling hour of television!  SHOW NOTES  Heather Cocks and Jessica Morgan on Twitter The Royal We on AmazonLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices