RE #128: @SomeHotelGuy - Hotel Industry State of the Market
Publisher |
Chris Powers
Media Type |
audio
Podknife tags |
Business
Interview
Investing
Real Estate
Publication Date |
Apr 12, 2021
Episode Duration |
01:21:06

On this episode, Chris talks with the anonymous "Some Hotel Guy" (www.Twitter.com/SomeHotelGuy) about the hotel industry. SHG details the nuances of owning & operating both independent and branded hotels, the process of working with "The Big 4" Hoteliers, how the industry was affected by COVID-19, and how he sees the industry moving forward. Enjoy!

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(03:04) - What’s your position within the industry?

(04:00) - Do you operate under one or multiple brands?

(04:49) - What types of hotels are you involved in?

(05:47) - Describe Upper Mid-Scale, Upscale and Upper-Upscale Hotels

(07:26) - Do you have to get approved as an owner/operator to be associated with one of these brands?

(09:26) - Is there ever conflict within owners working under multiple brands?

(10:22) - Scenario: I’ve never owned a hotel, but I own a great piece of land for a hotel and I approach Marriott: How does that conversation go?

(11:53) - How does the payment structure work as an owner?

(13:45) - Do the “Big 4” have a true monopoly over the resources available to hotel owners such as booking software?

(17:15) - What’s the difference between an independent hotel and brand affiliated?

(17:49) - In an independent scenario, is the owner often the operator?

(18:31) - Who’s bearing the risk in a situation of an owner franchising a hotel and hiring an operator?

(22:12) - How do you see the owner/operator relationship changing in light of the last year?

(24:08) - When did you know something was about to happen from a business standpoint in 2020?

(25:51) - What happened from your perspective in April/May for hotel Owners & Operators?

(28:48) - Did the industry suffer a lack of clarity in terms of a uniform response across the country?

(31:17) - Are closures determined on local government mandates or customer demand?

(32:34) - How much do labor markets play into what hotels decide to do?

(34:19) - Is there anything you’re seeing legislation-wise that will be beneficial to the hospitality industry?

(35:10) - What are the Big 4 brands mandating as it comes to cost structures over the next couple of years? Where are you saving money and where do you need to add costs?

(38:19) - Is there anything that keeps you up at night or are you more optimistic as we move forward?

(41:19) - What’s the % of hotel stays that are international vs. domestic in a market like New York?

(42:40) - Is the international issue more that we won’t be letting people in or that they won’t want to come?

(43:34) - Are there hotels that will fare off better than others? Or will everyone recover the same?

(44:49) - Have there been any notable transactions as it pertains to M&A within hotels?

(48:35) - What’s going on at hotels that aren’t open?

(51:26) - What’s the state of capital markets?

(53:49) - Are you having to underwrite differently now?

Twitter Questions

(54:57) - What does the hotel industry think about Airbnb and its place in the industry?

(57:10) - Is Airbnb going to get into the hotel industry?

(59:11) - What are your thoughts on the Kayak hotel opening?

(1:00:21) - If you had $100m, what would you go do in the industry?

(1:01:53) - Do you see the check-in experience changing?

(1:03:02) - Is there any technology that interests you right now?

(1:04:42) - What amenities matter in hotels or things on the horizon people want?

(1:06:35) - Room Service vs. Uber Eats/DoorDash

(1:08:41) - “If I own a 1960’s hotel in Trenton, NJ that is primarily longer stays for low-income folks: Do I sell now and cash out before it’s too late? Or, how long do people with roach motels have before it’s an obsolete asset?”

(1:10:17) - What are some common mistakes independent operators make pre-opening?

(1:11:57) - What are some common mistakes inexperienced operators make?

(1:14:17) - Is there still room for independent boutique hotels in the industry?

(1:15:06) - SomeHotelGuy’s Fear of Heights

The FORT with Chris Powers is produced by Straight Up Podcasts

On this episode, Chris talks with the anonymous "Some Hotel Guy" () about the hotel industry. SHG details the nuances of owning & operating both independent and branded hotels, the process of working with "The Big 4" Hoteliers, how the industry...

On this episode, Chris talks with the anonymous "Some Hotel Guy" (www.Twitter.com/SomeHotelGuy) about the hotel industry. SHG details the nuances of owning & operating both independent and branded hotels, the process of working with "The Big 4" Hoteliers, how the industry was affected by COVID-19, and how he sees the industry moving forward. Enjoy!

Follow Chris on Twitter: www.Twitter.com/FortWorthChris

Learn more about Chris Powers and Fort Capital: www.FortCapitalLP.com

Follow Chris on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/chrispowersjr/

Follow Fort Capital on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fort-capital

(03:04) - What’s your position within the industry?

(04:00) - Do you operate under one or multiple brands?

(04:49) - What types of hotels are you involved in?

(05:47) - Describe Upper Mid-Scale, Upscale and Upper-Upscale Hotels

(07:26) - Do you have to get approved as an owner/operator to be associated with one of these brands?

(09:26) - Is there ever conflict within owners working under multiple brands?

(10:22) - Scenario: I’ve never owned a hotel, but I own a great piece of land for a hotel and I approach Marriott: How does that conversation go?

(11:53) - How does the payment structure work as an owner?

(13:45) - Do the “Big 4” have a true monopoly over the resources available to hotel owners such as booking software?

(17:15) - What’s the difference between an independent hotel and brand affiliated?

(17:49) - In an independent scenario, is the owner often the operator?

(18:31) - Who’s bearing the risk in a situation of an owner franchising a hotel and hiring an operator?

(22:12) - How do you see the owner/operator relationship changing in light of the last year?

(24:08) - When did you know something was about to happen from a business standpoint in 2020?

(25:51) - What happened from your perspective in April/May for hotel Owners & Operators?

(28:48) - Did the industry suffer a lack of clarity in terms of a uniform response across the country?

(31:17) - Are closures determined on local government mandates or customer demand?

(32:34) - How much do labor markets play into what hotels decide to do?

(34:19) - Is there anything you’re seeing legislation-wise that will be beneficial to the hospitality industry?

(35:10) - What are the Big 4 brands mandating as it comes to cost structures over the next couple of years? Where are you saving money and where do you need to add costs?

(38:19) - Is there anything that keeps you up at night or are you more optimistic as we move forward?

(41:19) - What’s the % of hotel stays that are international vs. domestic in a market like New York?

(42:40) - Is the international issue more that we won’t be letting people in or that they won’t want to come?

(43:34) - Are there hotels that will fare off better than others? Or will everyone recover the same?

(44:49) - Have there been any notable transactions as it pertains to M&A within hotels?

(48:35) - What’s going on at hotels that aren’t open?

(51:26) - What’s the state of capital markets?

(53:49) - Are you having to underwrite differently now?

Twitter Questions

(54:57) - What does the hotel industry think about Airbnb and its place in the industry?

(57:10) - Is Airbnb going to get into the hotel industry?

(59:11) - What are your thoughts on the Kayak hotel opening?

(1:00:21) - If you had $100m, what would you go do in the industry?

(1:01:53) - Do you see the check-in experience changing?

(1:03:02) - Is there any technology that interests you right now?

(1:04:42) - What amenities matter in hotels or things on the horizon people want?

(1:06:35) - Room Service vs. Uber Eats/DoorDash

(1:08:41) - “If I own a 1960’s hotel in Trenton, NJ that is primarily longer stays for low-income folks: Do I sell now and cash out before it’s too late? Or, how long do people with roach motels have before it’s an obsolete asset?”

(1:10:17) - What are some common mistakes independent operators make pre-opening?

(1:11:57) - What are some common mistakes inexperienced operators make?

(1:14:17) - Is there still room for independent boutique hotels in the industry?

(1:15:06) - SomeHotelGuy’s Fear of Heights

The FORT with Chris Powers is produced by Straight Up Podcasts

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