One of the UK’s commercial radio groups is launching ad-free versions of their stations for a monthly fee. Is this radio’s secret weapon to defeat Spotify and the streaming services? Or should more presenters follow Iain Lee's lead and swap network radio for digital platforms? Plus, an Ofcom report shows the new dominance of TikTok and the music streaming platforms. Guests: Paul Keenan, President of Audio at Bauer; Iain Lee and Katherine Boyle, presenters of The Late Night Alternative; Yih-Choung Teh, Strategy and Research Director at Ofcom; Madhumita Murgia, European Tech Correspondent at the Financial Times. Studio engineer: Giles Aspen Producer: Hannah Sander Presenter: Datshiane Navanayagam