Our deep-dive conversation is with Brian Mulloy. He's doing small-scale development in the city of Detroit through his Ballet Real Estate, but with a focus on building restoration and urban spaces.

His transformation of a building at Bagley and Trumbull (and subsequent development of a property few thought could be built on it behind it) has not only has caught attention for its looks — but the amount of hassle he had to go through to get it done.

So how can Detroit support smaller developers? How can the city infill neighborhoods instead of building giant, block-sized developments? How has the advent of the "Motor City" emptied the city of Detroit? We get into that and more.