02:30 - The Verge's David Pierce talks with tech reporter Mitchell Clark about what it took to get service from Project Genesis and they conclude a FOIA may be the only way to get the facts. I became a Dish influencer to get a 5G NFT 20:21- David talks with senior policy reporter Makena Kelly about US lawmakers suddenly discovering that VPNs are a thing that exists and that they aren't very honest about their business practices. Lawmakers push FTC to clean up the VPN industry 41:50 - And finally, reviews editor Allison Johnson and news reporter Jon Porter go deep on Nothing Phone — our review, the hype leading up to its launch, and the reality of it now that we got our hands on it. Nothing Phone 1 Review Hot and Hyped: Inside the strange launch of the Nothing Phone 1 Email us at vergecast@theverge.com, we'd love to hear from you. Call our Vergecast Hotline! 866-VERGE11 (866-837-4311) Find us on Twitter: Mitchell Clark is @strawberrywell Alex Cranz is @alexhcranz    Makena Kelly is @kellymakena Jon Porter is @JonPorty Allison Johnson is @allisonjo1 David Pierce is @pierce Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices