In a time where the current events in America feel like they’re moving us closer to a dystopian reality, it’s hard not to feel frazzled by it all. Our guest today is someone who has spent a lot of time thinking about this. Hari Kunzru is a British-Indian novelist and journalist. He is the author of the novels The Impressionist, Transmission, My Revolutions, Gods Without Men, and White Tears. His most recent work is Red Pill, a novel that explores the idea of searching for order in a world that frames madness as truth. His podcast "Into the Zone" talks about opposites.  Produced & Hosted by: Saadia Khan; Written: Sarah Doh, Saadia Khan; Editing: Tom Whelan; Music: Evan Ray Suzuki