When COVID-19 hit, Harold quickly reshaped his routine to protect his family. At first, his parents also followed public health guidelines, but as the pandemic extended they began to relax their precautions, even having people stay over on weekends. Harold says he has been deeply impacted by their carefree approach, especially because he fears for his infant son’s health—and theirs. Plus: a COVID-19 contact tracer joins the show to share strategies.

Our expert this week is Oscar Baez. He is a care resource coordinator with the Community Tracing Collaborative, and chairs the immigration working group that’s helping to engage immigrant communities and individuals who have tested positive with COVID-19. Oscar is a contact tracer for Partners in Health. Learm more about the organization here. If you loved this episode, be sure to check out Trying to Warn Mom about COVID-19 from Afar and Parents Might Be Spreading Fake News . 

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