Though she was a primary caretaker, Sandra had a hard time knowing what to say to her dad at the end of his life. And Oceana Sawyer, a death doula, speaks with Juleyka about acknowledging death with dying loved ones, and taking care of ourselves as we care for them.

Featured Expert: 

Oceana Sawyer is a professional End of Life Doula who writes and speaks on the liminal space of active dying and grief. She is currently researching and holding space in the realm of embodied grieving in a context of somatic abolitionism. She facilitates grief circles, affinity groups for people of the global majority as well as deliver presentations on navigating big life transitions through somatic processes. Her latest book Life Death, Grief, and the Possibility of Pleasure, is available online and at bookstores near you. Learn more about Oceana's work here.

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