Samantha Manewitz is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and educator, and AASECT certified social worker currently based in Massachusetts. Rachel and Samantha discuss harm reduction and the processes of restorative and transformative justice. Optimistically, survivors forming the pods believe that change is possible for their perpetrators. She elaborates on the transformative justice 'pods' that were created by survivors of the Franklin Veaux scandal as well as how they operate. Diving into the systems that are responsible for enforcing justice, the conversation comes to include Scientology's justice systems and use of gaslighting. Hear more about Franklin Veaux from Eve Rickert's two part episode: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/eve-pt-2 (Part 2) Learn more about Samantha's site, "Safety Beyond Safewords" here: https://www.beyondsafewords.com/ Stay tuned, Before You Go: "Do as I Say, Not as I Do" as a catchphrase among narcissists. Rachel calls out institutional betrayal of survivors and the effect of neglecting to create consequences for abuse.