In a conversation at the Australian National University, Michelle Grattan, chief political correspondent at the Conversation, talks with Guardian Australia’s political editor, Katharine Murphy, about her new book, On Disruption . Murphy expands on the timeliness of her book with the current climate in Australian politics, the #MeToo movement and the overall mass digital disruption of society itself. Grattan and Murphy are introduced by Helen Sullivan, the director of ANU’s Crawford school of public policy