Jake: Hi, I’m Jacob Krueger, and thank you for tuning into a very special episode of The Write Your Screenplay Podcast. This is our 100th episode. I’m so incredibly excited, proud and grateful to all of the listeners that have made this possible for 100 episodes.
So, I was thinking, “What am I going to do for my 100th episode?” I wanted to do something special? So, I decided to go back to the source.
And for that reason, today I’m going to be interviewing my mom, Audrey Sussman.
I’m excited to talk to my mom on this podcast for a couple of reasons.
First my mom taught me everything that I know as an artist. I have the only Jewish mother in America who found out that her daughter was going to be a doctor and responded, “Oh, my God, but you could have been an Opera singer!”
So, I’m incredibly lucky to have had a mother who supports my artistic life, and that is something that a lot of people don’t get.
in addition to that, my mom taught me everything I know about writing, and not because my mom is a writer, but because my mom is a hypnotherapist.
Her work is about the stories that we tell ourselves, not on the conscious level but on the subconscious level, and how those stories take us on journeys of change-- how we can actually change who we are by changing the stories.
In this way my mom taught me how to induce a trance in a reader: how to allow a reader to experience a fictional story as if it was real.
She taught me how to use image and sound and feeling, and the other modalities that allow writing to feel real and stories to feel real.
She showed me how to build structure-- how the human mind puts structure together.
And she taught me how to do rewriting-- not how to rewrite a script but by how to rewrite your life! How to change the way you tell yourself the story of your life—not by making it fake, but by finding different layers, and different values to the truth.
Another reason I’m very excited to have my mom here is she teaches classes at the studio. She teaches two classes:
The Inner Game which is our class about how to take care of the inner challenges to your writing—the subconscious challenges, the fears, the confidence, the procrastination, and also how to connect to your characters on a more profound level. And she teaches our
Writing Lab, which is our experimental laboratory where we really push the edges of how writing works.
So, thank you, Audrey, so much. It’s weird to call you Audrey-- but thank you, Mom, for joining us here today.
Audrey: I’m really delighted to be here. As I was listening you tell the story of how you learned from me, it is interesting because all I was doing was being a mom who knew how to listen. That just was natural––it was such a natural way of interacting where you are always looking for the good in the person. You are always figuring if a person is feeling a certain way, especially my child, there must be a reason for it. Looking for those stories that you might have been telling yourself-- that was just how I parented and I was always looking for the good. And it sounds like you do the same with your students. I hear you when you teach.
Jake: That is probably the most valuable thing that you can learn as a writer. It is so easy to find the bad, and a lot of us, as parents to our inner creative children-- if we ever said to another child what we say to our little inner artist child, someone would be calling child services immediately.