This week, Mary Ann talked to Hans Tung, managing partner of Notable Capital (formerly GGV Capital), which is focused on investing in the US as well as in Europe and Latin America. 

Long-time listeners may recall that Hans, whose portfolio includes the likes of Airbnb, StockX and Slack, joined Equity last year to focus on down rounds, a term often treated like an evil phrase. Today, we're digging into why Hans still believes in down rounds, the importance of long-term thinking and the current state of startup investment.

We'll also dive into:

• Why Hans is so bullish on fintech, and what sectors within fintech especially has him psyched.
• Recent changes at his own firm, and why there have been so many personnel changes at VC firms as of late
• And more!

All right, sit back, hit play and have some fun with us. Equity will be back on Monday. See you then!

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