Seth Greenberg and Dan Dakich tip off the podcast talking about DeAndre Williams' "handler" trashing Kentucky and their disdain for middlemen. Then North Carolina head coach Roy Williams joins the show (9:32) to discuss meeting Michael Jordan as a high school kid, UNC not having a conditioning program in the '80s, encouraging kids to enjoy college and not look ahead, Jordan constantly creating motivation for himself, his thoughts on the transfer portal, how he's handling his team during the pandemic, why coaches aren't more outspoken on societal issues and having the overall edge over Jordan playing golf head-to-head.