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This week’s episode of the Munk Members podcast explores the Canadian province of Ontario’s deepening Omicron crisis and what it says about the state and future of the pandemic. Ontario has the unique distinction of being one of the most locked down jurisdictions in the developed world since the pandemic began in March 2020. Business, schools and civil liberties have been suspended on multiple occasions lasting months. The latest fourth lockdown has resurfaced deep vulnerabilities in the province’s healthcare system which seems immune from twenty plus months of remedial action and billions in public spending. Why is this happening? What can be done about it? What are the lessons the rest of the developed world can draw from Ontario’s outlier experience of the pandemic and its pernicious effects on every aspect of life in the province? Janice and Rudyard discuss it all.

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