Is there a glass ceiling for women in health and care? What should be done about it? Following the recent debate about the gender pay gap, Helen McKenna talks about leadership and gender in the NHS with Jane Dacre, President of the Royal College of Physicians, Anne-Marie Archard, Director of the London Leadership Academy, Sam Jones, former Director of the New Care Models programme at NHS England, and Deborah Ward, Senior Analyst at The King's Fund.