Tina Konstas joins Kate, and they talk about how stifling they found working for the public school system which is where they became friends. They also discuss the recent changes in Tina's life, and how they've both become much more positive people. Then they get into Stephanie Meyer's new book "Midnight Sun", and how men are probably just as romantic and sensitive as women are.

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