In this special episode of Against the Rules, Michael Lewis and Eric Vetro talk about their recent role reversal. Listeners will remember Eric as Michael’s singing coach in our last season… Now, Michael has been helping Eric launch his own podcast. Against the Rules is proud to introduce the world to Backstage Pass with Eric Vetro through an excerpt featuring Ariana Grande, one of his many famous voice students. Eric has inspired so many stars, he’s inspired Michael, and we think he’ll do the same for you. You can hear more Backstage Pass episodes at http://podcasts.pushkin.fm/atrbackstagepass Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com